Spain's former ambassador to the Vatican (1985-1987), militant atheist and without complexes, Gonzalo Puente Ojea (Cuba, 1924) in Pamplona yesterday presented his latest book, 'The cross and crown, the two Mortgages in Spain ', a critical essay and scathing about the influence of the Church in political power
"Religion is part of the civil power," complains again and again Gonzalo Ojea Bridge, the only atheist ambassador in Spain had the Vatican.
"That would be unthinkable today," said the diplomat, now retired, with a slow pitch that does not hide the forcefulness of his words. "The Church maintains in Spain the same privileges under Franco, and that is unprecedented in any European country. And on top are getting worse, "laments Ojea Puente, who has focused his latest book on the relationship between the Catholic religion and political power." There are two issues on which debate is no longer in Spain, religion and the crown . They are untouchable, "he notes.
- So much has changed Spain as an ambassador can not be an atheist in the Vatican?
Yes, very much. The church has regained its privileges, and largely thanks to the attitude adopted the PSOE in the transition. There is no real socialist, ideology in the PSOE only kept the rhetoric. As much as you say, no one has tried best to the Catholic Church that the PSOE.
-Zapatero, however, is defined as a layman, and has driven reforms and the law on abortion or gay marriage have brought to Church Street. Zapatero
not know what is secularism. Ignore everything and absolute cynicism. Legislation has taken measures related to civil rights for homosexuals and women are many thousands of votes, are measures that generate opinion and affinities. But little else. Today, elections have become a canard, and it does not discuss anything important. The worst thing is that people are so acclimated that are no longer surprised by anything.
- So bad is religion?
Theism is a bundle of contradictions, inconsistent. If we analyze the contents of faith will see they are contradictory. have decided that the Bible is the revelation but not more than a collection of writings laughable, some cruel, messy and with no coherence. Christian revelation and has no assurance about the time of science. Atheism is based on knowledge and science.
"For many people, however, religion is positive. A source of happiness and relief many times.
This is a matter of knowledge-how is generated the belief. Must start from the basic anthropological root of human beings, but that in schools is not touched. Just in case.
- The historic alliance between the Church and the Monarchy is natural or a mere convergence of interests?
is a matter of mutual interest. The main novelty of Christianity is the link between religious power and political power. If God created everything, religion can not be different from the empire. This raises the monarchical ideology, which is the confusion of the two powers, each with its own domain.
- Is this phenomenon is the same in all European countries?
All European monarchies come from the same strain. The difference lies in the cross-English, English-language specific problem greatly strengthens the power of the Church in Spain.
"Having seen, are we a society that is more theocratic?
The move meant that he was going to reform the financing of worship and clergy in four years. That was in 1976. We are in 2011 and is all the same. But the Church has a weak point that can not make money, and the financing of the Church can be a problem in the future. Perhaps this disaster that is causing the crisis raises some voices that question the privileges of the Church. Costs to maintain the welfare state, and when tightening hunger remains concerned about the soul. You can then get a Government to remove all privileges. Seen
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"Religion is part of the civil power," complains again and again Gonzalo Ojea Bridge, the only atheist ambassador in Spain had the Vatican.
"That would be unthinkable today," said the diplomat, now retired, with a slow pitch that does not hide the forcefulness of his words. "The Church maintains in Spain the same privileges under Franco, and that is unprecedented in any European country. And on top are getting worse, "laments Ojea Puente, who has focused his latest book on the relationship between the Catholic religion and political power." There are two issues on which debate is no longer in Spain, religion and the crown . They are untouchable, "he notes.
- So much has changed Spain as an ambassador can not be an atheist in the Vatican?
Yes, very much. The church has regained its privileges, and largely thanks to the attitude adopted the PSOE in the transition. There is no real socialist, ideology in the PSOE only kept the rhetoric. As much as you say, no one has tried best to the Catholic Church that the PSOE.
-Zapatero, however, is defined as a layman, and has driven reforms and the law on abortion or gay marriage have brought to Church Street. Zapatero
not know what is secularism. Ignore everything and absolute cynicism. Legislation has taken measures related to civil rights for homosexuals and women are many thousands of votes, are measures that generate opinion and affinities. But little else. Today, elections have become a canard, and it does not discuss anything important. The worst thing is that people are so acclimated that are no longer surprised by anything.
- So bad is religion?
Theism is a bundle of contradictions, inconsistent. If we analyze the contents of faith will see they are contradictory. have decided that the Bible is the revelation but not more than a collection of writings laughable, some cruel, messy and with no coherence. Christian revelation and has no assurance about the time of science. Atheism is based on knowledge and science.
"For many people, however, religion is positive. A source of happiness and relief many times.
This is a matter of knowledge-how is generated the belief. Must start from the basic anthropological root of human beings, but that in schools is not touched. Just in case.
- The historic alliance between the Church and the Monarchy is natural or a mere convergence of interests?
is a matter of mutual interest. The main novelty of Christianity is the link between religious power and political power. If God created everything, religion can not be different from the empire. This raises the monarchical ideology, which is the confusion of the two powers, each with its own domain.
- Is this phenomenon is the same in all European countries?
All European monarchies come from the same strain. The difference lies in the cross-English, English-language specific problem greatly strengthens the power of the Church in Spain.
"Having seen, are we a society that is more theocratic?
The move meant that he was going to reform the financing of worship and clergy in four years. That was in 1976. We are in 2011 and is all the same. But the Church has a weak point that can not make money, and the financing of the Church can be a problem in the future. Perhaps this disaster that is causing the crisis raises some voices that question the privileges of the Church. Costs to maintain the welfare state, and when tightening hunger remains concerned about the soul. You can then get a Government to remove all privileges. Seen
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